I probably don’t have to tell you this, but we are officially less than a week away from Valentine’s Day. And so to wish you a very happy almost-Valentine’s day, whether you’re single or coupled, I bring you our Valentine’s Day Special.
Today we are joined by Access Hollywood’s own Mario Lopez and his lovely wife Courtney Lopez, who will tell us the secret to their long-lasting love. There will be a lot of laughs, a lot of heart, and a few embarrassing details that I didn’t see coming.
Then I will answer your most asked Valentine’s Day questions, like how to celebrate on a budget and how to snag a last minute Valentine.
ROMANCE ROLLBACK (1:52)
I’m bringing back an oldie but a goodie segment – The Romance Rollback, where I tell you of love customs from a bygone era. What is the history and meaning behind Valentine’s Day? From Cupid to St. Valentine to Hallmark, it can be difficult to separate facts from legend. Here’s why February 14th looms so large on our calendars and in our hearts.
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(2:10) The history of our beloved V-day:
Turns out Valentine’s Day goes all the way back to the Third Century, when the Roman Empire ruled the world. (For those of you who don’t have math brains, that’s 200 to 300 AD.) Let me tell you the story of these two saints, both named St. Valentine.
Both Saint Valentines performed heroic acts that made them martyrs within the Christian religion. The name “Valentine’s Day” probably comes from one or both of them. Buuut their stories didn’t end all that romantically – one of these saints performed illegal marriages of young couples, and the other preached Christianity before it was legal. So both saints were beheaded by the Romans.
Once the Romans lost power and Christianity took over, they were like, “You know what? Remember those St. Valentine’s guys? Let’s celebrate them, AND celebrate these marriages AND celebrate Christianity. Let’s make February 14th Saint Valentine’s Day, and we can actually celebrate the way we want to celebrate.” And St. Valentine’s Day was born!
(3:32) More to the story?:
February 14th was a major holiday celebrated by the Romans every year to honor Juno, the goddess of marriage. The Juno Celebration included a big feast to recognize health and fertility, and young men would draw the name of a woman who they would then escort to the festival.
In the Middle Ages, people believed Feb 14th was the date that birds chose their mates. Additionally, it was also believed that if you met or dreamed about someone on this day, they could be your true love.
(5:00) Here comes commercialism:
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Now we take a turn towards our modern-day version of Valentine’s Day. Let’s look at the timeline:
- 1600s in England and other parts of Western Europe: The custom became to send romantic messages to your Beloved.
- 1800s: People started sending official Valentine greetings comics to their loved ones. Sometimes the messages were a little offensive, maybe a little off color. These messages got so cheeky and lit, that the post office stopped sending them.
- Late 1800s: After the Civil War, V-day became a major celebration in the United States, surpassed only by Christmas (the other super commercialized holiday).
- Also late 1800s: Businesses began printing and selling pre-written Valentine’s Day messages. People started giving candy and flowers as gifts or taking their partner on a romantic getaway.
(5:00) The modern-day myth of Valentine’s Day:
Now that Valentine’s Day isn’t really a religious holiday anymore, we get to CHOOSE how we want to celebrate. Even though our modern society puts so much emphasis on Valentine’s Day, it doesn’t have to hold the meaning that Hershey’s Valentine’s boxes lead you to believe.
The Goddess Juno tells us to focus on health and fertility. So maybe for you it’s not about the baby kind of fertility, but what you can grow in your life. Think about the ancient Romans – when you plant the seeds in fertile ground right now, who knows what can grow in the next season of your life? So let’s take St. Valentine’s Day, and expand its celebration to include our health and having a healthy relationship with ourselves (plus our partner).
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MARIO & COURTNEY (8:30)
My guests today are Mario and Courtney Lopez! Mario is an actor, author, and television and radio host. He currently hosts Access Hollywood, Access Daily and co-hosts the radio show On With Mario with Courtney. He has also appeared on Broadway, authored several books, and he recently opened the restaurant Tortas Lopez.
Courtney is a singer, dancer, actress and she has also appeared on Broadway. In fact, the couple met in 2008 in the revival Broadway production of A Chorus Line. They married in 2012 and today they have three beautiful children. In addition to hearing her on the iHeart radio show On with Mario, you can often find her guest co-hosting on NBC’s Access Daily, where we all first met.
(10:15) Mario & Courtney’s Love Story:
- D: I want to hear more about your love story. So take me back to 2008. It’s Broadway, A Chorus Line. You’re in the show, Mario, and so are you Courtney. How did the two of you meet?
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- C: I was in the show prior to him joining the show. I left, and ended up coming back for the last couple months. And I remember the day, June 23 or something. Stage left, wing one. And I remember meeting him (he was stretching), and we just met that day. Plus, his assistant in the musical was one of my good friends.
- M: He said, “Hey, there’s this girl coming to the show that I think you’re gonna like.”
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- D: The last time that I was on Access Daily, I remember there was some mix up with your first date? (11:20)
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- C: Yes! It was after a show, and usually the show doesn’t end until close to 11. He was running late because he had to go have drinks with Katie Couric. And it was a business thing. It was late, so I went home. How long was I going to wait for him, till two in the morning?
- M: It wasn’t my fault, Katie wanted to party. So I had to put in some work to get another opportunity.
- C: You know, maybe it would have been the end had we not been working together. But because I saw him every day and he was very persistent, very charming and very sweet, I gave him a second chance. We all deserve second chances.
(12:27) Rom-com recs & 20 Questions:
- D: What rom-coms are you both into?
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- M: The ones from like yesteryear strike a chord with me – You’ve Got Mail, Sleepless in Seattle, Fools Rush In.
- C: I like all those movies you mentioned, but my go-to’s usually have a comedy twist in it. Movies where they have a lot of speed bumps before getting together, like Along Came Polly with Ben Stiller.
- D: Which one of you is the better listener? (13:53)
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- C: Me. It could be said so nonchalantly, and I remember what people say.
- D: What is your partner’s oddest habit? (14:36)
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- M: Her snoring. You wouldn’t expect such a big sound out of someone so cute, but what happens every night is she snores loud, and then she falls asleep quickly.
- C: Breaking wind, wherever he is. We could be with the President and he would break wind.
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- D: Describe your sex life in two words? (15:57)
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- M: It’s. Great.
- C: Non-stop. (Non-stop fun.) And, we have door locks.
- M: We learned the hard way. I think being spontaneous makes it a lot of fun. Quick little getaways, even a day or two. You gotta carve out the time.
- D: When did you know that you two were in love? (17:10)
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- M: It’s funny because it wasn’t like I thought anything was ever going to come of it. She was in New York, I was in LA. I had done the long distance thing before. The reality was the odds were against us. So I just tried to enjoy our time while we were together.
- M: And then over the summer, she started to come out and visit me for like a day or so, for 24 hours. One day I told her, “Okay, I’ll take care of your apartment for like three months if you want to hang out here this summer. And at any point you don’t like me or think I’m crazy, you can go back.” And then she never left.
- M: It just kind of felt very natural and seamless. But I think the most important thing was that the timing was right. That’s why I say timing is always more important than even the person at times. Because you can have an incredible person, but if the timing is not right in your life, I don’t think it can work.
- D: Do you believe in soulmates? And are they predestined or made? (18:48)
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- C: I can’t see myself with anybody else. I don’t ever want to see myself with anybody else. I can’t even imagine my life with anybody else. So to me, he is my soulmate. Were we meant to be? I think so.
- M: I think things happen for a reason, and I try to surrender things according to God’s plan. If it’s meant to be, you pick up the signs. Then you’re sort of in charge of your own destiny that way, and it sort of manifested itself. There was an easy flow from one step to the next, and I think that’s how it should be.
- D: What advice do you have for younger couples? (19:57)
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- M: I firmly believe that as long as you work on yourself and try to be the best version of yourself, then the timing will sort of present itself. And that’s a constant process. You want to have the best version of yourself ready when you do meet that certain someone.
- D: Which one of you is more romantic? (20:16)
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- C: Mario, he’s pretty romantic.
- D: Any last words? (21:08)
- M: I don’t break anything!! That’s another thing is to keep laughing. It keeps things healthy and fun. It keeps the spark alive.
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DEAR DAMONA (VALENTINE’s EDITION) (23:05)
Submit your questions on Instagram, Twitter, or Facebook and hear our answers live on the show! Here’s what our listeners asked about this week:
(23:05) Dear Damona: I don’t have a lot of extra money to spend on Valentine’s Day. How can I still make it special?
We’ve got to get creative here. And to be honest, I think it makes for a much more special Valentine’s Day if you are doing something that is meaningful to you and your partner, not just going to a restaurant because that’s what you think you’re supposed to do. You can still make Valentine’s Day Special, if you’d like for it to be. Here are my top DIY-date ideas:
1. Go on a Nostalgia Date (23:53)
I’ve discovered that sharing stories and evoking the memories of a happy time in your past can really build a deep intimate connection with your partner. Open up old photo albums and take a walk down memory lane, or try an activity that you used to do together to bring back bonding memories. This date can really help you if you feel a little bit distant from your partner and you want to reconnect.
2. Homemade Planetarium (24:39)
If you’re stuck at home and you don’t have a lot of money or you can’t get out, go stand outside and look up at the sky. I will admit that I’m a bit nerdy, but isn’t it romantic to stargaze? Think about the ancient Romans and Juno and St. Valentine when they had the stars at their fingertips, or pretend like you’re kids and bundle yourself up and cuddle up outside.
I just downloaded this app called Sky View Lite, which will overlay the constellations onto the sky for you. This date is perfect for curious couples who want to observe the little things that we often overlook.
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3. Blindfolded Trust Walk (25:30)
This is such a great way to build intimacy. When you take away one of your senses, all your other senses get heightened. And also, when your partner has total trust and control, this can create a different dynamic between the two of you. But you have to communicate.
You can take turns leading one another through the house, and make sure that your partner is not going to trip and fall and hurt themselves. This date is transformational for anyone who has experienced a breach of trust in their relationship or feels they are growing apart.
4. Cook a Meal Together at Home (26:43)
Preparing a meal together fosters important relationship skills including patience and communication. You have to work together to make sure you are pacing the meal correctly. And in the end, you get to enjoy something that you made together.
My husband and I are long-time fans of box meal kits – your recipe items come pre-portioned and ready to cook. Most meal kits require you to order by midweek for the following week so be sure to plan ahead (this could even build excitement and anticipation for the date). This date works best if you’ve had miscommunication in your relationship and need to work on compromise.
5. Sip and Paint Night (27:50)
Have you allowed yourself to be artistic and playful lately? Order art supplies for delivery, then pour yourself and your boo a glass of wine. You can even recycle those old Amazon boxes for a creative mixed media masterpiece. This date is wonderful for couples who feel caught up in the pressure of their day-to-day routine and need to relax and find more levity in their relationship.
6. Play Never Have I Ever (28:30)
After many years it sometimes feels like you know everything about your partner. Yet a game of Never Have I Ever can reveal your deepest secrets in a playful way, or perhaps give you ideas for a post-quarantine bucket list? This date is for those who are looking to rediscover magic and curiosity in a long-term relationship.
7. Laugh Together (28:45)
My single clients all say they’re seeking someone with a sense of humor. Sharing a laugh bonds two people, plus smiling can actually improve your mood physiologically. Stream your favorite comedy special, or play a round of “make me laugh” and find your silly side. This date is for anyone who has been feeling depressed or disconnected from their loved one.
8. Listen To Music Together. (29:29)
A University of Cambridge study revealed that music can build empathy, a vital element of successful relationships. Take yourself back to a simpler time by sitting down at the piano together or putting on a record. Catch a live-streaming concert, or have a battle of your favorite singers online. This date works for couples who are overwhelmed by the pace of life and are craving a simpler date, or those who want to develop more compassion for one another.
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(30:33) Dear Damona: I don’t have a valentine yet. Is it too late? Should I just give up?
No, never give up on love. This doesn’t mean you always have to be in the pursuit of a relationship. But there is nothing wrong with being in the pursuit of a relationship, if that’s something that you want. Here’s the deal – you’ve got less than a week left. It’s not too late, but you gotta step on it. Let me tell you the quickest ways to make a connection this week:
1. Singles Events (31:11)
There’s a ton of singles activities happening both offline and online, because we know people are thinking about Valentine’s Day right now. Go on Eventbrite, or the events website Fever Up. I guarantee you if you just sit at home and wait for the invitations to roll in, it ain’t gonna happen. So check out what is happening, and make a plan.
2. Start Swiping (31:39)
There’s no faster way to find a date than your favorite dating app. Profiles take less than 5 minutes to create and you’ll have an entire dating pool at your fingertips.
And if you need help in a pinch, check out my Free Profile Starter Kit. My tip is to make sure you send outgoing messages once you match (women too). Over 70% of matches never turn into dates, so you have to be proactive to make sure you don’t get lost in the shuffle.
Send a lot more messages, and let go of the outcome. We’re still in peak dating season, so there are always new people cycling through the apps. Don’t give up!
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3. Enlist Your Friends for Help (32:50)
There’s so much shame around singlehood and that doesn’t serve you at all. Ask your friends and other people in your Connectors Circle for an introduction to someone with the qualities you’re looking for. Be specific and be bold.
4. Slide into those DM’s (33:35)
Honestly, I’d be willing to bet that at some point in the future, Instagram will grow into one of the biggest online dating venues. If you see someone you like that is commenting on one of your friends posts, go ahead and send them a DM. This also applies to Facebook groups and may be a bit easier, because you can get into more of a conversation. But then follow up with a message, follow up with a friend request. You never know where it might lead.
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Dating Tok & Fashion Therapy
I don’t know about you, but lately it’s been feeling like love is in the air. Spring is here, the flowers are blooming, we’re doing all our spring cleaning… so why not also think of spring cleaning your dating wardrobe?
If you’ve never thought about having a dating wardrobe, you’re in luck. Damona’s guest today, Stephanie-Gisondi Little (also known as the “fashion therapist”) will tell you why it’s so important and how to create one – even if you’re on a budget.
DATING DISH (2:30)
(2:30) Feeling disorganized in your love life?:
We’ve all heard of attachment styles, right? Well Allure Magazine explains in this article how disorganized attachment became the most misunderstood (and forgotten) attachment style. If you’re not familiar with attachment theory, it’s a method of analyzing and understanding how our childhood influences our relationships in adulthood. There are three primary attachment styles that are most often utilized by mental health professionals – secure, anxious and avoidant. And when you don’t fall under any of those categories, that’s where disorganized attachment comes in.
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According to professionals in the article, about 20-40% of adults have a disorganized attachment style. It can present itself as fear of abandonment or of getting emotionally close to someone. In extreme cases, it can emerge when a child grows up in an abusive household, which makes sense – you grow up in chaos, so then you bring chaos to your future relationships. Here are some signs that you may have a disorganized attachment style:
Damona believes that we move through these attachment styles differently in different relationships. Think about it – different people bring out different elements of your personality, and they trigger different things from your past. So it may not just be about being in a relationship with someone who’s securely attached, or moving towards a secure attachment yourself. You can be multiple things at the same time, as long as you are getting the right support from the right people to help you navigate your behaviors.
(7:03) Could an A.I. predict your relationship red flags?:
Wouldn’t it be nice if we could have a third POV in our relationships to spot any red flags, before we start to introduce our new partners to friends and family? As it turns out, A.I. (artificial intelligence) technology could be that third POV. This fascinating article in Screenshot Media gives us all the deets on A.I. dating apps. A recent study titled Loving the Age of AI Dating Apps surveyed people on how they would feel about working with an A.I. dating app. Nearly half of the respondents admitted that they would join an advanced A.I. powered dating app if it meant having more chances at finding a long term partner. But when they were asked what they would do if an A.I. dating app did suggest they break up with someone, only 7% said that they would end the relationship immediately.
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Damona is a little skeptical that A.I. could predict the end of a relationship, but believes that it could be used to find better matches for the participant overall. Honestly, so many of our behaviors that we think are random, are actually more predictable and pattern-based than we realize. According to the article, the main input that the A.I. would use to determine the success of your relationship, was your in-app user behavior – conversations with matches that had gone silent, changes in conversation based on keywords, and frequency of conversations. And if the A.I. could recognize when you acted in a way that could potentially threaten the relationship, they might be able to tell you in advance.
Now of course, there’s always issues, right? With A.I., it would be difficult to know what information to feed the A.I. from outside the app to get a strong enough understanding of the relationship. So basically, folks, we’re not there yet. But there is even more potential as to how an A.I. could predict your best matches before you have even had a conversation. Using A.I. in dating apps is only a proposal at this point, but I suppose only time will tell which direction dating app technology will be heading in next…
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STEPHANIE GISONDI-LITTLE (13:25)
Damona is thrilled to welcome Stephanie Gisondi-Little, the Fashion therapist, to the Dates & Mates family!
Stephanie began her career in the fashion industry working between New York and LA, with top designers like Emanuel Ungaro and Nicole Miller. Her advice has been featured in Marie Claire, In Style, The Hollywood Reporter, and more.
Stephanie also works to style clients and their closets from many different backgrounds, warranting her the title of ‘fashion therapist.’
(14:00) Why are you the ‘fashion therapist’?:
First things first, why does Stephanie call herself a fashion therapist? “I call myself a fashion therapist because having worked in retail wholesale garment industry, and having had my own ecommerce website, I realized that it’s not just about clothes at all right? The clothes are the fun part. But it’s really about how the clothes make you feel. In addition to being a personal stylist, I also work as a wardrobe organizer and closet organizer. And when you see how difficult it is for people to let go of certain things, the reasons why we hang on to them, you start to see that it’s just it really is about so much more than just clothes. And there’s a lot of emotional stuff that goes with just getting dressed.”
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Stephanie believes that clothes are a tool to express our core essence, and a great way to start conversations. She also recognizes the stigma around clothes only being about fashion, but there are trends for every body and every budget. “The thing that I realized is that you can either love clothes, or you hate clothes. But in our society, one has to get dressed, right? So the best thing to do is to figure out what works for you.”
(16:55) How to prep for the occasion:
Damona asks Stephanie, when prepping for a date or an event, what are the questions we should be asking ourselves? “I think the first question to ask yourself is, what time is it happening, where is it happening, and how do you want to show up as your favorite self?” And your favorite self for going on a first date may be a different self than the one that gets dressed for a business meeting or a wedding. Stephanie suggests looking into the kind of feeling you want to have. Maybe you want to feel more armored up, so you wear a motorcycle jacket or padded shoulders. Or maybe you want to feel more free and flowey, so you choose to wear that sundress you always get complimented on or a certain kind of fabric. But regardless of how you dress, make sure that your attire is appropriate to the time and location, and that you wear something clean. This is a big one for Stephanie, because even if you don’t have the fanciest outfit, showing up in stainless clothes and looking polished shows that you have respect for yourself, and respect for the person that you’re showing up to meet. That can’t be bad for a first impression, right?
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(20:06) Dress how you want to be perceived:
Damona mentions her strong belief in presenting yourself the way that you want to be seen. Particularly in dating profile photos, people are developing an impression of who you are in a split second based on the way that you’re presenting. Stephanie adds, “I take it back to the cave brain, where we are hardwired to be kind of on alert to say ‘are you from my tribe or are you not from my tribe?’ So we are making these instantaneous micro decisions. And for better or worse, they do affect what people think of us.” We don’t have control over a lot of things that happen to us in life. But one of the things we can control, and have a surprisingly large amount of control over, is how we are perceived. “I always say we all have multiple facets to our personalities and thank goodness your wardrobe can and maybe should reflect that.”
In terms of first dates, having a couple of go-to pieces for how you want to make a first impression is a great strategy. “It’s nice to know that you have at least one thing that fits you, feels like you like your current self, and you’re physically comfortable in it. What you don’t want to be doing is sitting around adjusting your bra straps, or thinking ‘my feet are killing me in these shoes’ or ‘this shirt makes me sweat buckets.’ You know, that’s not a cute feeling to be having while you’re trying to make nice conversation and get to know somebody.” Damona adds that so much energy already goes into preparing for dates emotionally and mentally, so having your wardrobe already decided helps to set you up for success even more so.
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(24:15) Stay adaptable:
Damona continues with something some people often have a hard time doing, which is staying flexible in your wardrobe – our wardrobes evolve just as we evolve over time. So keeping those pieces of “aspirational clothing” in your closet, i.e. clothes that you keep because one day you’ll be able to fit into them again, actually takes up more mental energy than we realize (not to mention closet space). Stephanie hits Damona with one of her favorite facts – “The average person makes 10,000 micro decisions every day. We’re not thinking about all of them, but we’re doing them. So there is energy that you’re expending before you’re even out the door if you’re looking into a closet that is not seasonally appropriate.”
Stephanie agrees that we all evolve in life, so having a closet that is equally as adaptable matters. “It’s worth populating what you have with one or two fresh things [every so often], even if you have a uniform of a kind that you wear all the time… If you can look around and say, ‘what’s one piece that’s on trend that I think would feel comfortable or look good on me,’ just try something! Whether it’s a brighter color or shoe style or what have you. There’s just so many ways to kind of pop what you already own.”
(27:28) Enclothed cognition:
Stephanie shares with Damona a concept in social psychology called “enclothed cognition,” which essentially states that you become what you wear. “I think we all instinctively know that when we get dressed, we get called for an interview, or a first date, you dress differently. And it makes a huge difference, what you feel once you start to get intentional in thinking about that. Damona remarks that you can also change the way you feel based on what you wear under your clothes, and this may even have a stronger effect since the undergarments you wear would only be for you.
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Damona mentions that tailoring is also a tool to help you feel your best in your clothing, and even take a piece that you may have felt frumpy into feeling like a completely different person. Stephanie states, “Totally agree. I think we’re all fed this continual diet of how everything should fit perfectly, and it should just be easy, breezy… And the other thing to bear in mind is that you know one brand’s 8 is another brand’s 10 is another brand’s 12.”
(33:11) Having a dating capsule wardrobe:
If you’ve never heard the term before, a “capsule wardrobe” is a small collection of clothing items designed to be worn together which are synchronized in color and line. The main point of a capsule wardrobe is to be able to have many outfit options without needing an excess of garments. So if you’ve never thought about creating a capsule wardrobe exclusively for dating, this may be a game-changing move for you. Stephanie gives some tips on how to get the most out of your dating collection.
“I recommend getting better quality wherever possible. You can get that more easily these days second hand, in very good condition. And it’s a little easier to source because there are so many great places… But I would rather have fewer pieces of better quality.” She recommends checking out classic pieces such as a well-fitting blazer, black ballet flats, a good white t-shirt, and a good pair of jeans. For men, she even recommends extending your capsule wardrobe by using the jacket from a 2-piece suit as its own blazer. Damona also points out that red is a good color to have somewhere in your capsule wardrobe, because it’s a color that we are biologically predisposed to be attracted to, and it naturally catches our attention.
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When creating your wardrobe for dating, also consider adding some conversation pieces. These are useful for dating because not only can they break awkward silences and inspire conversation, they have a story behind them which you can speak with more passion and presence. This can be anything from jewelry, to a bright red lip, or a cool graphic tee. Fun, printed socks or button-downs are also a great way to set the tone that you are playful and don’t take yourself too seriously. And to top it off, Stephanie adds that comfort is key – “You got to be comfortable. I always like to think, do your outsides match your insides? You know, are you dressed in a way that doesn’t really reflect who you are at all? Maybe you’re dressing too conservatively, and that’s not really who you are inside. Or maybe it’s vice versa? But comfort is key. It shouldn’t be that hard to get around in the clothes. I want folks to be comfortable and have a good time and be able to focus on the things that are far more important than just clothes.”
Be sure to follow Stephanie and her company on Instagram at @composed_co.
If you’re interested in learning more about fashion therapy, you can work with Stephanie virtually or in person through her website https://composedco.com/.
DEAR DAMONA (42:20)
Submit your questions on Instagram, Twitter, or Facebook and hear our answers live on the show! Here’s what our listeners asked about this week:
DAMONA’S DEALS
Google Sleuthing & Elephant in the Room
From West Elm Caleb to The Tinder Swindler to Kim and Kanye we’ve got digital safety and online etiquette on the brain. Damona mentions one study that predicted that if Cyber Crime continues at its current rate of growth, it’ll cost 10.5 Trillion dollars globally by 2025.
This isn’t to scare you, because a lot of these scams, crimes, and sticky situations can be avoided if you know the signs to look for. So today, Burton Kelso will tell us how to stay protected in our search for love and in our relationships.
DATING DISH (2:33)
(2:33) Is Grimes and Elon Musk’s relationship the wave of the future?:
According to our friends at Metro UK, Grimes and Elon Musk’s fluid relationship is joining the hall of fame for unconventional celebrity romances (including Dolly Parton to Will Smith and Jada Pinkett Smith).
If you haven’t heard, the couple *secretly* welcomed a baby together in December 2021 via surrogate, even though they had officially separated that September. In a recent interview with Vanity Fair following the announcement of their new child, Grimes then said that they were maybe kind of together, like he was her boyfriend she guesses? But they don’t live together and they don’t follow a traditional relationship model.
Not only is it becoming more and more common for modern-day couples to edge away from stereotypical relationship norms, but it’s also becoming increasingly visible in celebrity relationships as well. Which, all in all, is kind of an awesome thing! If we are able to be more flexible in our expectations of what a healthy relationship looks like, then this widens the bracket for people to feel more content in their own relationships, and not have their happiness be dependent on cultural validation.
So maybe it’s time for us to start looking towards the celebrity couples and role models in our lives that resemble the kind of relationship we want, not the one we think we should have.
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(5:55) Vulnerability is the new black: Well it’s official – Pure Wow confirmed in this recent article that vulnerability may be the new foreplay. The article starts with an anecdote from the author who had a very honest groundbreaking conversation with her partner. And through her partner’s vulnerability, she actually found herself feeling connected and… maybe a little turned on?
Award winning somatic sexologist, Jaiya, elaborated on this – she says that vulnerability is a powerful ingredient to creating alignment between two people who wish to get their true desires fulfilled and their needs met. But basically, it’s a way of exposing the most authentic you.
So how do we even open the door to be vulnerable? Well, Jaiya says to gauge your partner’s willingness and responsiveness when you choose to be vulnerable. This will also vary depending on how serious your relationship is. If you’ve just started dating, try to avoid any kind of emotional dumping – give them a little appetizer of the relationship to hang on to and be invested in before you hit him with the hard stuff. Additionally, in the early relationship stages, try to allow a ratio of making sure that you’re both sharing, and then listening to the other. If there’s a reciprocal share, then you know you’re both getting to a place of mutual vulnerability and authenticity.
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A lot of times when we go to vulnerability, our instinct can be to fix something. But this article really shows that it’s the act of vulnerability – of just the share – that can be really bonding for two people. Once you get into the relationship, it triggers a whole other series of emotions and levels of connection. And according to another study mentioned in the article, researchers found that oxytocin is released into our bloodstream whenever we experience true and authentic vulnerability (that’s the same chemical that’s essential to arousal). So although it can definitely be scary to be vulnerable, the payoff is evidently greater than we thought.
BURTON KELSO (11:43)
Damona is here with tech expert, TV personality, speaker, and entrepreneur Burton Kelso. Burton is currently the Chief Tech Expert of the award-winning tech service company Integral, based in Kansas City. He is regularly featured on local ABC, NBC, CBS & FOX morning shows, speaking about internet safety.
Burton’s passion is to help people make sense of, and get the most use out of, the digital world they live in.
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(13:16) Hit us with some dating safety: It seems like we’re living in a period right now where digital romance scams are on the rise (although part of this may just be Tinder swindler hype). Regardless, it’s never a bad idea to brush up on our online dating safety. Burton says that one of the main improvements in online safety is the existence of live video. In the past, if you wanted to see what someone looked like, you just had to trust that the glamor shot they sent you was actually what they looked like (and maybe there wasn’t as much of an instinct to question that they would be lying).
Nowadays online dating creates “watering holes” for people looking for connection, and so scammers are more likely to be on dating apps because that’s where the bodies are. But Damona confirms that although our access to potential scams has widened, our arsenal of tools to combat scamming has grown even more so, i.e. the ability to Facetime, researching their identity on the internet.
(15:18) Avoid getting socially engineered: Burton gets right down to the facts – he says that if you get into a relationship online, and your partner starts asking you for money or gifts soon after, that’s a red flag (especially large amounts of money upfront). Another red flag is if you read something they’ve texted you, and it seems vague enough that it could have been sent to anyone, there is a likelihood they could have copy-pasted the message to multiple people. Burton adds, “it’s so easy to do this, and they can carry on multiple conversations and have multiple people that they’re grooming at the same time. And technology just makes it so easy. You can do it from a computer, you can do it from a smartphone, so you can be anywhere and just send whatever you want, whenever you want.”
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Damona brings up a concept Burton has mentioned before, which is how scammers are able to “socially engineer” their subjects. Basically, social engineering is when a scammer takes a look at a situation or person and finds out what their weak spots are. And with social media allowing us to post our thoughts and emotions online daily, it doesn’t take long for a scammer to figure out what they can say to peak your interest. A common symptom of this is if the person you’re talking to makes you feel extremely special, like you’re the only one for them. Damona concludes that “people like to blame the dating apps, but it’s really the communication and that digital communication. Everybody wanting to move to text, wanting it to be more efficient, that has pushed us in this direction.”
(19:16) What’s up with your digital hygiene?: Let’s clarify – what are the precautions we should be taking online to avoid getting socially engineered by scammers? “The best thing to do is to use common sense and slow your roll, slow down when you’re in these online relationships. Because usually, in about six months, someone’s going to reveal who they are. We can only fake it for so long.” Another red flag Burton has clocked is if someone did not want to meet face to face in a safe location. This is a pretty reasonable request (especially as a woman), so if there is resistance in meeting for the first time in a way that’s comfortable for you, then there’s probably something going on with that person that you don’t need to deal with.
So what information should we avoid putting onto the internet altogether? Damona points out how she never “checks in” on any of the apps (i.e. attaching your location to a post you make, or updating the check-in feature on Facebook). Burton proposes avoiding giving out your real cell phone number when possible, because there is a way that your partner could gain access to your service provider and hack into your voicemail (if they become ambitious enough). Instead, Burton suggests getting a number with WhatsApp or Google Voice to hand out to people that you’re dating. That way if they become a nuisance, you can change your number within the app. Lastly, if you are nervous about your information being too public, go to your Google preferences, and indicate that you don’t want your information shared via Google. Be sure to turn off some of those personal-data sharing features within your Google or Microsoft account.
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(26:39) Internet sleuthing 101: Now that we know how to spot scammer red flags, how can we fact-check our suspicions? Burton remarks that Google is a good and very basic place to start if you want to become an internet sleuth. In addition, everyone’s on social media and even more people are on LinkedIn, which often gets lost in the shuffle as a resource. “If someone is employed they’re going to have a LinkedIn profile, because they want to keep their options open. Maybe they’re an entrepreneur and they want to connect with more people. So I definitely would check on both Facebook, and of course, LinkedIn. LinkedIn has got about 850 million users now – they have more users than Tik Tok.” Damona mentions that if they’re not on LinkedIn themselves and they are part of a business or corporation, it’s bound to have a website. Or if they’re on the board of some kind of charity, the website will often have a list of all the board members and essential persons.
But we couldn’t talk about sleuthing without mentioning the unsung hero of fact-checking – Google Image search. This is where you can drag and drop a photo from online into the Google search bar, and Google will then scour the internet for all instances in which that photo pops up. “Even on social media, you want to make sure someone isn’t using a headshot from Pixabayor Wix or Squarespace, that they haven’t used just some random dude that they posted on their social media platform.” If you want to do an image search, go to the main page of Google and at the top, click the little tab that says “images.” And Damona says to make sure that the photo you use is taken directly from the website or profile, screenshots will not work.
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(31:32) Beware of airtags: Airtags (or smart tags, for Samsung users) have been giving everyone a spook lately, so let’s nail down exactly what they are and how to avoid them. Basically, airtags are a tracking device keychain created by Apple to act as a key finder to help find lost items. But unfortunately, scammers have been using air tags and smart tags to track people by slipping them into an individual’s purse or pocket without them knowing. Sometimes, scammers will actually attach airtags to your car. So if a notification pops up on your device that says there’s an unknown airtag or smart tag nearby, definitely pay attention to the alert and disable its access. Damona does point out the bright side of airtags, which is that you can use these so your family and friends can keep track of your location, and even as a safety precaution the next time you go out on a date.
Check out more of Burton’s advice at https://www.burtonkelso.com/ and be sure to follow him on all the socials @BurtonKelso.
DEAR DAMONA (36:22)
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The 7 Love Styles & Doppelbangers
Are you still using the “5 Love Languages” to understand the relationships in your life? Well, it’s time to put an end to that! A lot has changed since the 80’s, including the ways we give and receive love.
In this week’s episode, Damona is joined by Molly Owens, the CEO and founder of Truity, a provider of research-backed personality tests which help people better understand themselves at home, at work and in relationships.
Molly will walk us through Truity’s newest research, which indicates that there are actually 7 love styles experienced in modern day relationships. Plus, Damona will share her own results from the “Seven Modern Love Styles test” – and oh boy, is this system good.
DATING DISH (2:42)
(2:42) The new dating trend that’s dawned on daters: The Independent recently covered a new trend called ‘dawn dating,’ and you can probably guess what this means: it’s going on dates in the morning. According to data from dating app Badoo, which surveyed 1,000 of its users, 71% of single people on the app said they would be impressed if someone asked them to go on a date in the morning.
So why has dawn dating been trending? Here’s the deal. It’s no secret how much alcohol is intertwined with dating culture, and many singles have changed their dating habits to take alcohol out of the equation – also called ‘dry dating’. Similarly, almost half of the people surveyed enjoy the fact that on a morning date, there’s no expectation to drink alcohol on the date. Plus, when you’re on a morning date, you don’t have to worry about setting a drink maximum for yourself (unless you’re going for brunch and mimosas).
Singles from Badoo’s data also mention that dawn dating is an optimistic and fun way to start the day, and that they feel like they’re more refreshed in the mornings and can get to know their dates on a deeper level.
Damona comments that she’s all about challenging dating norms and shifting your habits to see the different results. Dawn dating shows us that you don’t have to delete your dating apps, get a crazy haircut, or buy a whole new wardrobe to shake things up. Instead, you can use your experiences to craft your dating life in a way that really supports you, and helps you feel like your best self.
(5:32) Could you be dating your ‘doppelbanger’?: Are you dating someone who looks kind of… or exactly like you? According to the Daily Mail, you may be dating your ‘doppelbanger.’
The term is used mostly in the LGBTQ community when somebody is dating someone who bears a big resemblance to themselves. But if we step back and look at this pattern overall, there is something going on in attracting someone who shares similar features to yourself.
The article mentions research that was conducted by Hungarian scientists around physical attraction. They found that women were inclined to choose partners whose faces resemble those of their fathers, and men of their mothers. Another 2012 study by Institut des Sciences de l’Evolution in France, discovered that a third of men were attracted to images of women that had been digitally manipulated to resemble their own features.
Now all this begs the question – is there something biological that causes us to seek out visual similarities? Is it that we trust those who reflect our own features back to us, or look like our caregivers? And even further, with all this article touches on, can we still say that opposites attract? The next time you find yourself making eyes at a potential match, take a moment and see if you observe any parallels in your features. You may look more alike than you think…
MOLLY OWENS (10:23)
Molly Owens is the CEO & Founder of Truity, one of the leading providers of research-backed personality tests. She is a former therapist, with a Master’s Degree in Counseling Psychology. Molly is also a contributor to INC. Magazine and recently appeared on Bloomberg TV.
Molly is here to share research which builds upon the original “5 Love Languages.” She will explain how Truity’s new “Seven Love Styles” framework addresses the changes we have come to see in modern day love styles.
(11:34) What exactly are love languages?: As popular as love languages have become in recent years, it’s funny to think that most of us don’t even know their origins. Molly gives us the scoop that the 5 love languages were originally developed in the 80s by a marriage therapist named Dr. Gary Chapman.
His hypothesis was that people express and receive love in different ways. So if you’re doing something that you think is very loving for your partner, and you’re thinking, “oh, I’m doing a great job of showing them how much I love them,” it won’t translate in the same way if what you’re doing doesn’t align with their love language. Chapman idealized that if you could teach couples about the 5 love languages, they would then have the language to explain what they want and need from each other in a relationship.
Molly explains that as helpful as the love languages were as a foundation for emotional communication between couples, Chapman’s research was actually done on a pretty homogenous sample of people. Since Dr. Chapman was a marriage therapist, he conducted his research on his straight, married Christian clients.
So in Truity’s research to see if the love languages held up, they looked at a more current sample and more diverse sample of people. Truity collected data from over 500,000 visitors to their website, asking them what made them feel loved and how they like to express love to their partners. The results showed that in modern-day relationships, people’s “love styles” actually fell between 7 categories – a reflection of how relationships have really changed since the 80s.
(15:25) The Intellectual Love Style: Damona and Molly start with the Intellectual love style, which Molly mentions is a love style that wasn’t really talked about at all in the original 5 love languages. So what does it really mean to have this love style? Molly describes that “it’s all about respect. It’s all about connecting on a mental level. It’s all about having that discourse with your partner, having those discussions, respecting their opinions, getting thoughtful advice, really thinking about what’s going on mentally, and having that mental match.”
Molly adds that a “red flag” for this love style (or rather, an indication that this may be yours), is if you’re very quickly turned off by someone who you can’t have a stimulating conversation with. Damona mentions how she definitely defines herself as having this love style, since what really attracted her to her husband was that he could keep up with her in conversation.
(16:30) The Emotional Love Style: Molly comments that the Emotional love style parallels the Intellectual one, in that they are both newer styles that accommodate the shifts in modern-day relationships. On top of that, these two love styles are the most popular love styles. “The Emotional love style has to do with supporting your partner through hard feelings, through difficult times, and really showing empathy to your partner,” Molly reports (and Damona remarks how this aligns with her own support for “empathetic dating”).
(20:50) The Activity Love Style: If this love style sounds familiar or appealing to you, Molly explains this is because the Activity love style pretty much matches the Quality Time love language in the original system. Although, rather than spending any kind of time together, the Activity love style focuses more specifically on sharing leisure activities and hobbies with your partner. Molly notes that this showed up in their data as couples often traveling, going on trips, and learning new skills together.
Uniquely, this love style also includes sharing a hobby with your partner, or at least sharing the interest of your hobbies with your partner. Damona also observes that many of the people she coaches often put an emphasis on shared activities as being core to their relationship. And while quality time is important, Damona believes that some of the other love styles are more crucial for long term compatibility.
(24:42) The Physical Love Style:
Now this one sounds pretty much like a given, right? Damona ponders how there is more to the Physical love style than meets the eye, since the physical aspects of a relationship tend to change over time as familiarity and closeness grow between two people. Molly agrees, and expresses that the Physical love style “really combines both the kind of sex side of things, that attraction and intimacy, and also just the sort of snuggly huggy stuff that we like. We found that the two did often go together for people, so that’s why it’s not separate.”
So what should you look for in a partner if you have a Physical love style? Molly suggests when you’re starting out in a relationship, to look for signs that the other person has the same, or at least roughly the same tolerance level, for physical closeness. “This is one where we have sort of a biological need, and it’s a little bit harder to overcome it if you’re really kind of off kilter with the person that you’re with. And that’s true for sex drive, as well as kind of just that physical closeness.”
(26:52) The Practical Love Style: The Practical love style has another parallel within the original 5 love languages, which is Acts of Service. But interestingly, this love language has a bit of a loaded history. “We found the acts of service concept to be pretty gendered… So in Dr. Chapman’s book The Five Love Languages, usually when he talked about housework, he framed it as a woman’s job. And if a man did it, then he was helping out his wife, which really doesn’t fly anymore.”
Molly and Damona agree that nowadays, there is some wiggle room for what “act of service” is. For instance, if your partner has a Practical love style, you can take the car to the car wash versus doing it yourself. This is still considered a practical expression of love, considering you went out of your way to make your partner’s day easier.
(29:54) The Financial Love Style: In a way, you could categorize this love style under the same umbrella as the Acts of Service love language. But more specifically, the Financial love style is really about “being there for the other person, and saying ‘I have these resources and I’m going to share them with you.’” Molly continues that expressions of financial love don’t necessarily have to be bougie – it could be as simple as stepping in to pay your partner’s phone bill when they can’t, or supporting them when they feel financial stress.
(31:00) The Appreciation Love Style: Much like the Words of Affirmation love language, “people who have the Appreciation love style really want to hear verbal positive feedback. They want to hear ‘you did a great job, I really appreciated that, thank you for all that.’ That rah-rah sort of verbal feedback.” One difference between this love style and that of its 80’s counterpart, Molly says, is that Truity found more people nowadays need that congratulatory aspect from their partners. So instead of just the verbal recognition, people with this love style may crave the emotional recognition.
Curious about your own love style? Be sure to take Truity’s 7 Love Styles quiz here.
DEAR DAMONA (36:22)
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Design Your Relationship & The Talking Stage
Do you ever feel like traditional dating and relationships just won’t work for you? Or maybe they do work for you, but the timeframe when you can date and connect is narrow? Does it hold you back?
Well, today’s guest is Damona’s good friend – freelance writer and Certified Life, Love and Dating Coach, Deb Besinger. She is here to let you know that times are a changin’ and that now’s the time to “design your own relationship.”
DATING DISH (1:36)
(1:36) Is the economy what’s actually keeping you single?: Business Insider dropped some knowledge on us in this recent article, explaining how our economy is really set up to more highly benefit married couples over singles.
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So let’s get educated. The article points out the many aspects of life in which married couples have advantages – tax breaks, social security savings, and even social circles (when you’re single, you spend more money on your own going out with friends or buying gifts for loved ones). They also drop some recent data on home ownership provided by Bank of America, stating that about 65% of single women said that they would rather not wait until they were married to buy homes.
In terms of dating, some single women are even worried that owning their own home sends a message to men that they don’t have space for them in their life, because home ownership must mean they’ve already got everything figured out. And all this isn’t even taking into consideration the wage gap between men and women, and then further between white women and women of color. All of these factors not only reflect societal standards from a rather bygone era, but they add up to one upsetting deficit on behalf of singles – lack of financial control.
Considering all this, Damona states that you don’t necessarily need to be married or in partnership, to have someone to lighten the load. She proposes that women and other singles join to form single pods, where you can buy things in bulk (hello, Costco) and split the cost of other expenses. This also gives you more power to choose the people that you spend time with and decide to make a part of your single life.
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(7:10) The newest form of dating torture: Glamour Magazine came out with an article last week describing the talking stage. According to this article, the talking stage is a label coined by Gen Z to describe a maddening, undefined early stage in many relationships.
Damona thinks this is really cute because Gen X and millennials have been saying “talking” forever. But regardless of your age, you get it right. This is like, “we’re talking, but we’re not dating.”
Although Glamour makes this phase of dating seem unbearable and confusing for most people, Damona believes that “the talking stage” is actually a very necessary part of the dating process, and one that you shouldn’t run away from. “This is more what I call the screening stage to the people who are in my program. But the screening stage then has to move into some sort of definition.”
The article also makes mention of another relationship buzz word, which is the “situationship.” Although a situationship may be more defined and have some level of commitment (because you technically have to be *in* a situationship), what further separates this from “the talking stage” is that a situationship is something you don’t want to be in.
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So Damona votes that we all skip over the situationship phase, and that we get to a period of definition after the talking stage more quickly. Embrace defining the relationship and leaving the ambiguity behind, and this may mean embracing a different definition than any relationship you’ve had in the past.
Additionally, be sure to have clarity on three questions: what do I want, what do they want, and have we talked about it. You are in control of your dating destiny. So if you dislike ambiguity, end it.
Check out Damona’s Free Profile Starter Kit here, to take more control of your dating destiny.
DEB BESINGER (12:35)
Deb Besigner is a freelance writer and Certified Life, Love and Dating Coach. She is the founder of Kiss of Perspective, her coaching program where she teaches clients how to “design their own relationship.”
Deb is also the author of Bound and Gagged by Christianity and the Sins that Set Me Free – her personal story of leaving fundamental Christianity and finding the religion of love.
(14:05) People’s relationship goals are shifting: Deb has been in the business of romantic coaching for eight years and she has seen a shift in how singles are dating. Deb says that many people are finding empowerment in learning how to be alone and that this process may have been sped up by the pandemic and the resulting lockdowns.
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Deb explains how she sees people becoming more conscious and realistic about the amount of time they have to date intentionally. She reveals how she fosters this in her 10 week coaching program by asking members not to date for the first 8 weeks. That’s right, y’all read that right, the first 8 weeks.
Deb talks about how so many people feel pressured by traditional relationship timelines. Her goal is to help people slow down and become more aware of what life with a partner ideally looks like to them – in your perfect world, how do you spend your time? And how does the partner factor into that? Do you want to share a friend group, or are you okay having separate circles of friends? What works for you?
(17:09) Design the relationship you want:
Wait… Deb’s clients don’t date for the first 8 weeks of her 10 week program? What do they do in the meantime?
Deb lays out for Damona that “they’re getting really clear on what they want, what makes sense for them, what they have to offer, and getting rid of the stories in their head… “In my program, we’re really taking the steps to get you in that ideal place and to get really clear on what you want. And part of that is asking, what kind of relationship do you think is going to work for you?”
Damona brings up a recent article in the New York Times, about the relationship concept of “living apart together,” where couples don’t necessarily need to live together in the same space, or even the same country, to be together long-term. This idea totally aligns with Deb’s philosophy of leaving conventional relationship models behind. She says that “designer relationships” (meaning you forge your own relationship model) are becoming more common. “We’ve all gotten very used to video chatting whether we wanted to or not these last couple years, including planning a virtual date – you can still do that with a partner that’s far away.”
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Deb does note that designer relationships do take a bit more intentionality and emotional intelligence to really make them work, since the distance makes it necessary to communicate more and keep checking in. But if we have the capacity to create the life we want, why wouldn’t we have the power to create the relationship we want in the same way?
(22:52) The feminine and the masculine: Along with goals and values, people’s exploration of gender roles and identities have been expanding as well. Deb believes that letting go of traditional gender dynamics is also key to attracting a match who will like you for your authentic self.
Deb goes on to say that many of her male clients identify or lean towards demisexual, meaning they need the emotional connection before they can get intimate with someone. But because society has told them that prioritizing emotion invalidates their masculinity, it’s hard to let that authentic part of themselves thrive.
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Deb continues, “one thing I say often when that subject comes up is, if women were all feminine all the time, and men were all masculine all the time, the men would beat each other up and kill each other, and the women would be in puddles on the floor crying. We all have to balance both of these things all the time… to say that just because you were born a certain way, you therefore have to have these characteristics, is ridiculous.”
Bottom line: we have more freedom now than ever to explore what feels authentic to us. So take advantage of the opportunity, and don’t be afraid to listen to your gut.
(27:20) Turning up the heat:
Damona adds, “I believe there’s value in understanding the various parts of ourselves. And sometimes we need to turn up the volume on certain parts. And sometimes we need to turn down the volume on others.”
For instance, if you decide to go on a lunch date during your work day, your mind would most likely still be in work mode. You might be thinking about what you will have to go back to. Although this is technically presenting an authentic part of yourself, it’s not ideal when you’re getting to know a potential partner.
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So, If you have to make the transition from work to a date, Deb recommends having a jam song that you can sing at the top of your lungs beforehand (even if it’s in the car on the way there). On top of that, Deb suggests changing one thing about your appearance – maybe take a tie off or change your shirt, or put on your best lipstick and jewelry. Both of these tips help your brain to recognize that you’re shifting into a different mode of energy.
(29:19) Bound and gagged by Christianity:
Deb’s book, Bound and Gagged by Christianity, is all about navigating her own path of life and love after leaving her fundamentalist Christian Church. Deb recounts getting married very young at 23 years old, and that this marriage was sort of an arranged marriage. She explained that in her community, you didn’t really date anyone unless you thought that you were going to marry them.
Divorce was also a concept that the church thoroughly rejected. “It took my ex-husband being really bold and brave to say, you know, we just can’t keep on. And I’m grateful for that, actually, because I decided that I could redesign my life.”
Another thought remained in Deb’s head after her divorce – “Gosh, I’d really like to have sex”. Her strict upbringing had prevented Deb from exploring her sexuality. Her husband was the only person she had ever been intimate with. She needed to unlearn the stories the Church had taught her about purity and consent. Doing this for herself led Deb to her current religion, which is the religion of love.
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Check out all of the dating help Deb offers, plus more info on private coaching, on her website https://www.kissofperspective.com/.
DEAR DAMONA (37:12)
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Email from N – What if you connected on your first date, and then spent the night together? At 50 I feel old enough to make a decision like this. Is it bad to not slow down? Does it always blow the relationship? What’s the statistic? What’s a good timeline and what do you say to that person?
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Dr. Drew & The Big 400
It’s our 400th episode special of Dates & Mates! We’ve been collecting messages from Dates & Mates listeners who shared why they listen to the show. They’ll be sprinkled throughout the episode, including two very special messages from the Hoffman household.
That is not the only thing that makes this episode special. When Dates & Mates started 9 years ago, there weren’t many other shows like this around. But there was one show (and one person in particular) that gave Damona a roadmap for how she wanted to share her voice and knowledge with the world. That show was Loveline, and that person was Dr. Drew Pinsky – who will be the honorary guest on today’s episode!
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DR. DREW PINSKY (3:16)
Dr. Drew co-hosted the radio show Loveline for over 30 years and offered advice on dating, relationships and so much more. In addition to his career as a TV and radio personality, Dr. Drew is a doctor of internal medicine and an addiction specialist. He continues to treat patients to this day.
Dr. Drew and his wife, Susan, have been married for 30 years and they currently work together to produce the podcast, Ask Dr. Drew. Today he joins us to share the story of their 7-year courtship and his secrets for a long-lasting relationship.
(4:30) How Dr. Drew met his wife Susan:
Dr. Drew sets the record straight on his marriage origin story. It’s 1982 – Dr. Drew had finished his second year of medical school, and he and his friend went out to a bar to blow off some steam from studying.
When they arrived, they were surprised to find that a fashion show was being held at the bar, and it was at that moment that Dr. Drew spotted his now-wife at the mic MC-ing the show. He recalls having this weird, cosmic feeling of “I have to talk to this person.” Buuuut this apparently wasn’t reciprocated, since she blew him off pretty hard.
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Two years later, Dr. Drew was in the studio hosting Loveline when Susan appeared. She was at the radio station as a guest to promote another fashion show. Dr. Drew describes how he felt a powerful attraction to her again, and he explains how he did something he had never done before. He knew that she was in a relationship, but he still asked her to please take his phone number, no strings attached. He says he just “had” to do it.
Susan eventually did give Dr. Drew a call, and it wasn’t until a year later that they both realized their paths had crossed before. They continued to date off and on for seven years, until finally staying together. “I think it’s Eastern philosophers like Chinese philosophers that have a saying about the important people in your life entering more than once,” mentions Dr. Drew. “They come around a few times typically.”
(10:23) Good stretches and bad stretches:
Damona asks Dr. Drew about why he and his wife were off and on over the years, and how he knew when it was the moment to pursue the relationship head-on. “It’s more that I knew when it wasn’t the moment. I knew that if I got married or committed myself to somebody, let’s say five years into our relationship of on-and-off again, I’d blow it if I was not ready.”
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He continues that readiness, and having a sense of when you’re ready for something, is such a personal compass. Part of this process is accepting how you may need to let go of the right person if it’s the wrong time, which can be hard to swallow.
Damona also inquires Dr. Drew’s thoughts on “doing the dance” of dating (i.e. when should I text them, is it too early/late to call, I have to wait for them to reach out first). Dr. Drew is very clear that men will never play games with you, they are wired to see things very simply.
And if a guy IS playing games with you, it’s either to keep you from getting too deep into the relationship, or to keep themselves out of the relationship. Bottom line: the more direct and honest you can be, the better it will be for both parties.
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(14:36) One day at a time:
Dr. Drew gives a piece of sound relationship advice that parallels the work he does in long-term recovery from drug addiction – take it one day at a time. He states that if you are happy today, you will most likely be happy the next. Take the time to express gratitude for your partner and let them know that you appreciate them.
But if you are not happy today, the negative feelings will continue to build up. This is when you need to pay attention and hone in on what is missing for you. Damona adds that much like Dr. Drew’s advice, a relationship is just a constant choice. “You get to choose to be committed to the relationship. And it’s this constant process of recommitting.”
Damona also brings up the elements of communication and conflict resolution in a relationship, which can be very layered. She points out that if your model for relationships has been a dysfunctional one, then having clear and honest communication can feel wrong. In these cases, fighting or a lack of communication will feel comfortable and familiar, however unhealthy it may be.
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Dr. Drew says the remedy is learning how to fight fairly. “One of the ways to think about it is when there’s a winner, the relationship loses. The fighting should not be gratifying, it should not be interesting. It should be something you just want to understand and move past and not let it escalate in any way.”
(19:56) When people are ready, they’re ready:
Damona brings up one final point with Dr. Drew – what can I do if my partner doesn’t show up to do the work? Put simply, Dr. Drew answers that you can’t force somebody to show up to do the work, they have to make the choice. But when someone motivates themselves to step up to the plate on their own, they will be ready.
Dr. Drew indicates that he’s a big fan of EFT, or Emotionally Focused Therapy, because it’s all about supporting both people in a deep context. He adds that most people usually feel heard and understood, and come out having clarity about what’s creating the conflict and what each other is experiencing.
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EFT also helps you to listen with your whole body (wait, what?). “It’s really the difference between hearing the words, and listening with your whole body. Your body is the instrument of what you’re listening to. You hear it to your toes, and you feel it, hear it, and process the information as it’s coming in.”
You can hear more of Dr. Drew’s amazing advice and insightful conversations on his podcast, Ask Dr. Drew.
DEAR DAMONA (24:42)
Submit your questions on Instagram, Twitter, or Facebook and hear our answers live on the show! Here’s what our listeners asked about this week:
(24:57) “Waiting For Chemistry” asks: My new date seems a lot more interested in me than I am, but I’m not feeling it yet! He lacks that sexual spark for me and I admit it’s from comparing him to my past lovers. However, he meets all my must-haves and seems devoted to a real relationship. I don’t want to lead him on, but how long should I continue to show him my undivided attention in terms of going out and showing physical affection? I’ve already slept with him, partly because I wanted to see if that changed the chemistry between us – it hasn’t.
(28:10) Anonymous asks: The last couple of months, especially over the holidays, have been very challenging emotionally, mostly due to the continued isolation and living alone with the day-to-day anxiety during covid. I’ve done EMDR, and I’m likely going to start taking medication soon to help me through this very difficult time. Something I struggle with now is finding the time, energy, and mindset to even check the apps or have a phone call or in-person date. When will I know I’m ready to date? And how do I get back out there?
(31:23) Anonymous asks: How does one handle dating with a disability that is only occasionally visible but yet can’t be denied?
(31:23) R asks: I’m still looking young at 34 years old, but I just find myself in a single place – others in my life already have families and now are even married. Coming from a Latino based family, I get asked by Aunts and Uncles when am I going to find my match, and it’s just killing me inside. Especially that I’ve been through so much in my life since I am epileptic and have had more than 6 brain surgeries now. When women see me, they ask me about my scars on my head, and I will always feel it’s not their business to know about my medical condition. But will they just run away like always?
(37:21) Dani asks: Why do I want physical intimacy and touch when I think about the person I am going on a date with, but when I am there with them in person, my instinct is to pull back and I often feel uncomfortable with affectionate contact? I understand it takes a while to warm up to someone, but it can feel really frustrating to want to run towards something in my head only to end up running away from it in person.
(41:03) Anonymous asks: I am going through something really painful. I caught my boyfriend of 5 years in a lie and he revealed that he loves another woman. This was via text and he hasn’t contacted me since. I would love it if you have any advice or pointers. I feel so lost right now.
(43:20) Anonymous asks: When I am out in social settings, I have been told I am unapproachable or intimidating. How can I appear more approachable?
DAMONA’S DEALS
TikTok Love & Workplace Romance
Are you ready for a powerful conversation?
We have an exciting interview with a TikTok star who may have predicted her own wedding in a video. The inspirational Alexa Carlin is here today to tell us about how she cheated death at the age of 21 and the lessons from her harrowing experience that prepared her for success in love and life.
DATING DISH (2:15)
(2:15) Crushin’ on your coworker:This Forbes article reported on a new study finding that 50% of US workers have a crush on a co-worker, and 33% are currently involved in a workplace romance. And get this – that 33% is 6% higher than before the pandemic.
Two things are happening here. One, we’ve become used to talking to people digitally, and become more skillful at expressing ourselves over text and video chat. Two, people aren’t under the watchful eye of Big Brother. So, there is more freedom to pursue a playful workplace romance.
But even as work relationships are coming back, is it still worth risking everything you’ve worked for to date that person? D’s take is that even though working from home makes the rules feel more flexible, it’s still important to consider the pros and cons when pursuing any kind of relationship at work.
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(7:01) Could TikTok be your new matchmaker?
Turns out online dating doesn’t just have to happen through a dating app or website. The Cut recently published an article redefining online dating as any space online where you can connect with others. Because of Covid lockdowns, social activity (including dating) has increasingly funneled into platforms like Twitter, TikTok, and Instagram.
On the one hand, dating apps increase your odds of meeting someone because people go on them with the purpose of meeting someone. But when you are using alternative platforms to make a connection, you start building off of a foundation of some sort of commonality (versus on dating apps, where you are self-starting a conversation).
For instance, the article featured a couple that met because this guy is a musician who used to play on TikTok, and the algorithm was like the matchmaker that recommended him to her. What’s also empowering about this approach, is that you get to self-report what you are about and what’s important to you.
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If you are eager to start experimenting with online dating, offline of the apps, then Damona has some hot tips for you:
ALEXA CARLIN (13:40)
Alexa Carlin is a public speaker and TV personality who has been featured on the Oprah Winfrey Network, FOX, ABC, CBS and TEDx. She is the founder and CEO of Women Empower X (WEX), and the author of “Adaptable: How to Lead with Curiosity, Pivot with Purpose, and Thrive through Change”.
Alexa credits her success and the community she has created to surviving a near death experience. She came out of a medically induced coma after being incredibly ill at 19 years old. She had been given only a 1% chance to live.
Hers is a powerful story, and you can feel Alexa’s power when she speaks.
(15:11) How Alexa met her man:
Here’s how it happened: Alexa was headed to a speaking gig in 2019, when her flight was delayed and she was left sitting in an airport. She had recently deleted all the dating apps on her phone, feeling kind of overwhelmed with the online dating scene.
During her wait, Alexa opened her phone to find that she had forgotten to delete one last dating app. Out of boredom she opened the app, and the first profile looking back at her was her future fiancé, Colby.
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Alexa remembers what caught her attention about Colby’s profile, and what led her to swiping right. First, one of Colby’s pics was of him and his mom – Alexa wanted a partner who was super family oriented. And second, she was struck by the answers to the questions on his profile. One said that his goal is to retire by a certain age (which told Alexa that he’s driven), and he was into similar hobbies as hers like tech and finance.
Alexa also mentions how she felt something more intuitive – “His pictures were not trying to look a certain way. I think it was more the energy I felt from him on this app that just spoke to me.”
(18:38) What was the moment?:
Damona asks Alexa that age-old question – what was the moment she knew she wanted to be with him for the rest of her life? Alexa remembers one moment roughly four months into dating her fiancé in 2019.
She was hosting a conference for her business Women Empower X, which helps women entrepreneurs grow their businesses. This was the first time that Colby had come to the event with her, along with the rest of her family.
Alexa remembers watching Colby man the merch table, while chatting with her grandma pretty much the whole day. “And I looked at him and I just felt this overwhelming feeling that I am so in love with him, and he’s the man that I want to marry. Because at this moment, it was the first time in my entire life that someone meant more to me than my business.”
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(21:47) Nice-to-haves vs must-haves:
Alexa lists the three things that she believes helped her find her person.
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(26:00) This may be your last first date:
Damona brings up a TikTok Alexa made in the Summer of 2019, literally RIGHT before her first date with Colby. Alexa’s grandmother would always say “put your lipstick on, maybe today’s the day that you meet that person.” So in the video, Alexa states very optimistically “you never know, this may be my last first date!”
Not only did the date go well, but they ended up closing down the restaurant before even ordering their food. “So right away, I knew I wanted to go on a second date, because we had so much to talk about.”
(29:59) Let’s pivot with purpose:
Things come into your life that you can’t control, so how do you keep on going and not give up? That’s the whole purpose of Alexa’s book, Adaptable. In the same way that we’ve seen ourselves adapt to a new normal amidst Covid, being adaptable is an important quality in your relationships or when you are growing as an individual.
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Alexa recounts that when she had her near-death experience, she ended up in a dark place struggling to find the hope to keep her going, now that she had been diagnosed with this lifelong disease. Eventually she came upon a new perspective – if hope isn’t possible, maybe she could exchange hope with curiosity.
Becoming avidly curious about what may happen if you don’t give up, or if you go on one more date, is enough to push you through your most challenging moments. Alexa adds, “I believe our obstacles can do one of two things, they can hold us back or fuel us forward. And the beautiful thing about that is the choice is always up to you.”
Grab a copy of Adaptable: How to Lead with Curiosity, Pivot with Purpose, and Thrive through Change here.
And listen to more of Alexa in “The Alexa Rose Show” on the Callin App.
DEAR DAMONA (34:51)
Submit your questions on Instagram, Twitter, or Facebook and hear our answers live on the show! Here’s what our listeners asked about this week:
DAMONA’S DEALS
The Tinder Swindler & Hypnojourneying
You know, I am always telling you guys that you have to be your true self when dating and in relationships, but how often do you find yourself wondering just how to do that?
Our guest today is Certified Hypnotist, Marriage & Manifestation Coach Beth Miller. She is here to teach you how to get in touch with your most authentic self through guided reflection and a technique called hypno-journeying.
DATING DISH (1:40)
(1:40) A cheat code for more likes?: A TikTok and Tinder user named Minnie recently posted a TikTok, describing how she noticed one particular pose coming up over and over again in dating app pics. The guys using these pics had a few things in common. Firstly, they were all 25 to 36 years old. Secondly, they were all using one common pose – standing tall with their arms out making an X, almost always in nature.
Now whether these men are being instructed to do this or this is happening naturally, one thing is for sure. Making your body bigger, forces your heart to work harder, which results in elevated mood and increased confidence. They call it power posing. This is a great way to really stand out, to show that you are confident and not afraid to take up space.
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This brings up a key point, which is that you have to be strategic to attract attention on a dating app. This is why I talk about the Three C’s – color, context and character.
Hot tip: our eyes are conditioned to stop when we see the color red and pay attention. So, when I talk about color, it isn’t just about finding a color that looks good on you, it’s about grabbing the attention of your potential partners.
On to context. Taking the X pose in nature says you’re adventurous, outdoorsy, or maybe that you like a challenge. The other thing you do when you take that X pose is you show your confidence. It shows your personality. That’s the character part of the Three C’s.
I am not going to tell you to take the power pose in nature, but I do challenge you to explore poses that really convey your three C’s. You may even see a spike in your matches.
(5:20) The Tinder Swindler
If you haven’t had a chance to watch ‘The Tinder Swindler’ yet, don’t worry – no major spoilers ahead.
I wasn’t going to talk about this here. I really don’t like talking about negative online dating stories because people tend to think they are indicative of the whole experience. But despite all the hype around Simon Leviev (the Swindler himself), swindlers have been out there since the dawn of time.
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(7:30) Here are some of the flashing red warning signs I saw from the Tinder Swindler:
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BETH MILLER (15:25)
Beth Miller is a Certified Hypnotist, Marriage & Manifestation Coach, who supports folks in fixing their relationships.
Beth is also the founder of Soulify Method, a 12 week program which works with the plasticity of the brain to help women transform their lives and marriages.
She has been featured in The London Free Press, CTV News, and Macleans Magazine. Beth is here to remind us of who we truly are, so we can show up fully when dating and in our relationships.
(16:06) How hypnotherapy actually works:
So, what the heck is hypnotherapy anyway? Beth gives us the deets. “It’s this incredible therapy that allows you to get into your subconscious mind.” First, you are guided into a deeply relaxed state – the Theta brainwave state. Once you’re there, the hypnotherapist can reach the parts of your mind where all your memories, thoughts, and beliefs are stored, and bring everything forward to your conscious brain.
By consciously accessing these thoughts, you can help to parent yourself and process the painful memories and trauma that live in your body. Beth also mentions that contrary to the more classic image of hypnotherapy in movies and TV, the subject is 100% completely in control of everything that happens. So, if the hypnotherapist were to tell you to rob a bank, you won’t unless you truly believe that is something you want to do.
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(19:08) Our inner child creates who we are today:
A large part of hypnotherapy is diving deep into your relationship with your inner child. When you go into that Theta state and find your inner child, you can figure out what beliefs have been holding you back your whole life.
Beth clarifies that your inner child is made up of your playful aspects, and your wounded aspects. This can include any major traumas, or something as simple as being laughed at for getting an answer wrong in school.
Beth remarks how you can also reach aspects of your inner child through a meditative state. This is where your Alpha brain waves reside – where you are so present and still, that anything concerning the past or the future melts away.
She also recommends journaling as a way to reach this meditative state. “The point is, that at any age, you have the capacity to rewire your thinking” – and working with your inner child can help.
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(23:57) You are 50% of the solution:
Now we can do all the personal growth and hypnotherapy we want, but can you still shift in your relationship if you’re the only one that’s doing this kind of work?
Beth tells her clients that you can most definitely change your relationship in this situation, because you are 50% of the solution.
So often in relationship dynamics, we end up surrendering our power – we think to ourselves “if he would only change, if he would talk nicer to me, if he would give me more hugs, if you would help out more.” But if you can embrace the change you can create in your half of the relationship, this is a sure step towards changing your relationship as a whole.
On the other hand, if it’s clear that your partner isn’t trying to pull their 50%, this may be a clear sign that that’s not the relationship for you. “But I think almost 100% of the time, your partner is just mirroring to you things that you need to work on.”
Beth gives an example – you go on a date, and your partner wants to have a third beer. Your reaction follows with “why are you having a third beer? That’s so expensive.” That’s showing you that maybe you feel the pressure to save more money. Then you can ask yourself where this pressure is coming from, and dive deeper into that emotion.
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(28:50) Step into your triggers:
In one of her recent blog posts, Beth talks about noticing and leaning into the moments when you feel triggered. A trigger is any kind of unwanted or uncomfortable emotion – think emotions like anger, sadness, guilt, shame, embarrassment. “Triggers are this massive clue into areas within yourself… When triggers come up, we have to celebrate because your body is speaking to you. It’s telling you ‘I need to be seen, I need to be heard.’”
Beth suggests picking one of your emotional triggers, and getting really curious about it. When we remain curious and withhold judgment, it allows us the safety we need to go into the trigger and explore it.
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Here’s an example. Beth has a client whose husband is extremely messy. He leaves his dishes everywhere, he plays video games at night and she will wake up to like wrappers all over the place. Beth explains that as a child, this client was told you need to have a clean house. So when she’s in an environment that doesn’t seem like it’s in control, she gets this out of control feeling within her. So by exploring this trigger, she learned that it’s not really about her husband being a slob – it’s about her environment.
(30:45) Building a solid foundation:
Beth remarks that when you go into the relationship pool, you don’t want to find your better half. You want to go into the pool ready to find a partner who you won’t be triggered by. When you take the time to do the inner work, your relationships won’t result in arguments, you won’t feel unloved, you won’t feel unheard, and you won’t feel unseen, just because you love yourself.
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You will also build a larger capacity to see the bigger picture behind other people’s triggers, and approach them with kindness and understanding. All in all, hypnotherapy can be a great tool in helping us do the inner work to free ourselves of harmful emotions.
Check out Beth’s program, Soulify Method, at https://soulifywellness.com/.
DEAR DAMONA (34:08)
Submit your questions on Instagram, Twitter, or Facebook and hear our answers live on the show! Here’s what our listeners asked about this week:
DAMONA’S DEALS
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Valentine’s Day Special & Creative Date Ideas
I probably don’t have to tell you this, but we are officially less than a week away from Valentine’s Day. And so to wish you a very happy almost-Valentine’s day, whether you’re single or coupled, I bring you our Valentine’s Day Special.
Today we are joined by Access Hollywood’s own Mario Lopez and his lovely wife Courtney Lopez, who will tell us the secret to their long-lasting love. There will be a lot of laughs, a lot of heart, and a few embarrassing details that I didn’t see coming.
Then I will answer your most asked Valentine’s Day questions, like how to celebrate on a budget and how to snag a last minute Valentine.
ROMANCE ROLLBACK (1:52)
I’m bringing back an oldie but a goodie segment – The Romance Rollback, where I tell you of love customs from a bygone era. What is the history and meaning behind Valentine’s Day? From Cupid to St. Valentine to Hallmark, it can be difficult to separate facts from legend. Here’s why February 14th looms so large on our calendars and in our hearts.
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(2:10) The history of our beloved V-day:
Turns out Valentine’s Day goes all the way back to the Third Century, when the Roman Empire ruled the world. (For those of you who don’t have math brains, that’s 200 to 300 AD.) Let me tell you the story of these two saints, both named St. Valentine.
Both Saint Valentines performed heroic acts that made them martyrs within the Christian religion. The name “Valentine’s Day” probably comes from one or both of them. Buuut their stories didn’t end all that romantically – one of these saints performed illegal marriages of young couples, and the other preached Christianity before it was legal. So both saints were beheaded by the Romans.
Once the Romans lost power and Christianity took over, they were like, “You know what? Remember those St. Valentine’s guys? Let’s celebrate them, AND celebrate these marriages AND celebrate Christianity. Let’s make February 14th Saint Valentine’s Day, and we can actually celebrate the way we want to celebrate.” And St. Valentine’s Day was born!
(3:32) More to the story?:
February 14th was a major holiday celebrated by the Romans every year to honor Juno, the goddess of marriage. The Juno Celebration included a big feast to recognize health and fertility, and young men would draw the name of a woman who they would then escort to the festival.
In the Middle Ages, people believed Feb 14th was the date that birds chose their mates. Additionally, it was also believed that if you met or dreamed about someone on this day, they could be your true love.
(5:00) Here comes commercialism:
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Now we take a turn towards our modern-day version of Valentine’s Day. Let’s look at the timeline:
(5:00) The modern-day myth of Valentine’s Day:
Now that Valentine’s Day isn’t really a religious holiday anymore, we get to CHOOSE how we want to celebrate. Even though our modern society puts so much emphasis on Valentine’s Day, it doesn’t have to hold the meaning that Hershey’s Valentine’s boxes lead you to believe.
The Goddess Juno tells us to focus on health and fertility. So maybe for you it’s not about the baby kind of fertility, but what you can grow in your life. Think about the ancient Romans – when you plant the seeds in fertile ground right now, who knows what can grow in the next season of your life? So let’s take St. Valentine’s Day, and expand its celebration to include our health and having a healthy relationship with ourselves (plus our partner).
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MARIO & COURTNEY (8:30)
My guests today are Mario and Courtney Lopez! Mario is an actor, author, and television and radio host. He currently hosts Access Hollywood, Access Daily and co-hosts the radio show On With Mario with Courtney. He has also appeared on Broadway, authored several books, and he recently opened the restaurant Tortas Lopez.
Courtney is a singer, dancer, actress and she has also appeared on Broadway. In fact, the couple met in 2008 in the revival Broadway production of A Chorus Line. They married in 2012 and today they have three beautiful children. In addition to hearing her on the iHeart radio show On with Mario, you can often find her guest co-hosting on NBC’s Access Daily, where we all first met.
(10:15) Mario & Courtney’s Love Story:
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(12:27) Rom-com recs & 20 Questions:
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DEAR DAMONA (VALENTINE’s EDITION) (23:05)
Submit your questions on Instagram, Twitter, or Facebook and hear our answers live on the show! Here’s what our listeners asked about this week:
(23:05) Dear Damona: I don’t have a lot of extra money to spend on Valentine’s Day. How can I still make it special?
We’ve got to get creative here. And to be honest, I think it makes for a much more special Valentine’s Day if you are doing something that is meaningful to you and your partner, not just going to a restaurant because that’s what you think you’re supposed to do. You can still make Valentine’s Day Special, if you’d like for it to be. Here are my top DIY-date ideas:
1. Go on a Nostalgia Date (23:53)
I’ve discovered that sharing stories and evoking the memories of a happy time in your past can really build a deep intimate connection with your partner. Open up old photo albums and take a walk down memory lane, or try an activity that you used to do together to bring back bonding memories. This date can really help you if you feel a little bit distant from your partner and you want to reconnect.
2. Homemade Planetarium (24:39)
If you’re stuck at home and you don’t have a lot of money or you can’t get out, go stand outside and look up at the sky. I will admit that I’m a bit nerdy, but isn’t it romantic to stargaze? Think about the ancient Romans and Juno and St. Valentine when they had the stars at their fingertips, or pretend like you’re kids and bundle yourself up and cuddle up outside.
I just downloaded this app called Sky View Lite, which will overlay the constellations onto the sky for you. This date is perfect for curious couples who want to observe the little things that we often overlook.
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3. Blindfolded Trust Walk (25:30)
This is such a great way to build intimacy. When you take away one of your senses, all your other senses get heightened. And also, when your partner has total trust and control, this can create a different dynamic between the two of you. But you have to communicate.
You can take turns leading one another through the house, and make sure that your partner is not going to trip and fall and hurt themselves. This date is transformational for anyone who has experienced a breach of trust in their relationship or feels they are growing apart.
4. Cook a Meal Together at Home (26:43)
Preparing a meal together fosters important relationship skills including patience and communication. You have to work together to make sure you are pacing the meal correctly. And in the end, you get to enjoy something that you made together.
My husband and I are long-time fans of box meal kits – your recipe items come pre-portioned and ready to cook. Most meal kits require you to order by midweek for the following week so be sure to plan ahead (this could even build excitement and anticipation for the date). This date works best if you’ve had miscommunication in your relationship and need to work on compromise.
5. Sip and Paint Night (27:50)
Have you allowed yourself to be artistic and playful lately? Order art supplies for delivery, then pour yourself and your boo a glass of wine. You can even recycle those old Amazon boxes for a creative mixed media masterpiece. This date is wonderful for couples who feel caught up in the pressure of their day-to-day routine and need to relax and find more levity in their relationship.
6. Play Never Have I Ever (28:30)
After many years it sometimes feels like you know everything about your partner. Yet a game of Never Have I Ever can reveal your deepest secrets in a playful way, or perhaps give you ideas for a post-quarantine bucket list? This date is for those who are looking to rediscover magic and curiosity in a long-term relationship.
7. Laugh Together (28:45)
My single clients all say they’re seeking someone with a sense of humor. Sharing a laugh bonds two people, plus smiling can actually improve your mood physiologically. Stream your favorite comedy special, or play a round of “make me laugh” and find your silly side. This date is for anyone who has been feeling depressed or disconnected from their loved one.
8. Listen To Music Together. (29:29)
A University of Cambridge study revealed that music can build empathy, a vital element of successful relationships. Take yourself back to a simpler time by sitting down at the piano together or putting on a record. Catch a live-streaming concert, or have a battle of your favorite singers online. This date works for couples who are overwhelmed by the pace of life and are craving a simpler date, or those who want to develop more compassion for one another.
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(30:33) Dear Damona: I don’t have a valentine yet. Is it too late? Should I just give up?
No, never give up on love. This doesn’t mean you always have to be in the pursuit of a relationship. But there is nothing wrong with being in the pursuit of a relationship, if that’s something that you want. Here’s the deal – you’ve got less than a week left. It’s not too late, but you gotta step on it. Let me tell you the quickest ways to make a connection this week:
1. Singles Events (31:11)
There’s a ton of singles activities happening both offline and online, because we know people are thinking about Valentine’s Day right now. Go on Eventbrite, or the events website Fever Up. I guarantee you if you just sit at home and wait for the invitations to roll in, it ain’t gonna happen. So check out what is happening, and make a plan.
2. Start Swiping (31:39)
There’s no faster way to find a date than your favorite dating app. Profiles take less than 5 minutes to create and you’ll have an entire dating pool at your fingertips.
And if you need help in a pinch, check out my Free Profile Starter Kit. My tip is to make sure you send outgoing messages once you match (women too). Over 70% of matches never turn into dates, so you have to be proactive to make sure you don’t get lost in the shuffle.
Send a lot more messages, and let go of the outcome. We’re still in peak dating season, so there are always new people cycling through the apps. Don’t give up!
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3. Enlist Your Friends for Help (32:50)
There’s so much shame around singlehood and that doesn’t serve you at all. Ask your friends and other people in your Connectors Circle for an introduction to someone with the qualities you’re looking for. Be specific and be bold.
4. Slide into those DM’s (33:35)
Honestly, I’d be willing to bet that at some point in the future, Instagram will grow into one of the biggest online dating venues. If you see someone you like that is commenting on one of your friends posts, go ahead and send them a DM. This also applies to Facebook groups and may be a bit easier, because you can get into more of a conversation. But then follow up with a message, follow up with a friend request. You never know where it might lead.
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YEAR OF THE TIGER
It’s February 1st – not only is Valentine’s Day hot on our heels, but today is the Chinese Lunar New Year! So happy New Year part two! (Don’t worry, I’m not going to say another Dating Sunday is coming. You already had enough of those.)
2022 is the year of the Tiger, which not only symbolizes power, but tigers are also known to be adventurous, ambitious and never back down from a challenge. I want you to take that energy into everything you do, just as my friend and our guest today, Alix Strauss, does.
Alix is a writer and frequent features contributor to the New York Times. She has spent a large part of her writing career interviewing couples with long-lasting marriages, and today she’ll be sharing everything she’s learned along the way. Plus, she’ll reveal whether or not you should let your mom set you up, based on the many essays she’s edited on the topic…
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DATING DISH (3:33)
(3:33) Are you a romantic or more aromantic?
Have you been losing your drive for dating lately? This article from Scary Mommy gives us all the deets on whether you’re burnt out on romance, or you may be something called aromantic.
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If you’ve ever heard of asexuality before, it’s a similar concept on a different spectrum. Basically, being “aromantic” means you don’t experience romantic love and do not feel romantic connections. But because aromantics are still capable of feeling non-romantic love, it can be easy to confuse aromanticism with a lack of attraction.
Here are some of the signs you might be aromantic:
(6:27) Is there a West Elm Caleb lurking in your love life?
If you haven’t heard about the West Elm Caleb phenomenon, let me get you up to speed.
Recently, a woman on TikTok shared her experience about going out with this dude named Caleb who she dated briefly. She said that he seemed to be really, really into her, but then poof, he suddenly disappeared.
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In the comments section someone posted, “is this the West Elm Caleb?” It turns out that the same experience had happened to someone who watched the video. From there, TikTokers started to flood the comments with their own similar West Elm Caleb experiences.
West Elm Caleb has now become this infamous archetype. He’s the guy who ghosts after having seemingly amazing first dates, with no explanation. This is called love bombing – when a date showers you with compliments, gifts and affection in order to gain immediate trust, and then they disappear.
Now your first reaction to being love bombed might actually be filled with butterflies and giddiness, like you just met this AMAZING guy. But butterflies are more about chemistry than compatibility, and when a relationship starts out of the gate that fast, it’s only bound to fizzle out more quickly.
Plus, you end up skipping the important moments of discovery that help you figure out if this person is a well suited long term match for you or not. Slow love is the key, y’all.
Think you may be getting love-bombed? Look for these signs:
And as a BONUS, here are the signs someone is two-timing you:
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN (15:37)
Today my guest is writer Alix Strauss. Alix is a frequent features contributor to the New York Times, and covers topics ranging from trends in beauty, travel, and food to celebrity interviews.
She’s been featured on ABC, CBS, CNN, and The Today Show. Her articles have also appeared in The Financial Times, Time Magazine, Condé Nast Traveler, and Departures (among others).
Alix is a 4-time published author, whose work includes Death Becomes Them: Unearthing the Suicides of the Brilliant, the Famous, and the Notorious, and Have I Got a Guy for You, an anthology of mother-coordinated dating horror stories.
(17:00) Making romance a priority in 2022: Alix wrote an article before the start of the new year all about creating new year’s resolutions for your relationship. She interviewed four relationship experts (including yours truly), and got all their tips on how to improve your relationship throughout 2022.
One thing Alix notes in writing this piece is that people are always looking for a way to reconnect, or to connect in a better, healthier way. She continues, “there’s so much that we forget, and we really do forget to check in with each other.”
Alix also mentions that nostalgia can be a very useful tool in helping people connect. But there is a very big difference between connecting nostalgically, versus asking “what did we learn last year, and what are we going to say goodbye to?”
Whereas 2020 was the year of reconnecting through nostalgia and recreating normalcy, 2022 will be the year of letting go of the things that don’t serve your relationship anymore, and moving forward anew.
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(19:35) Not every moment is a romantic moment: One of Alix’s interviewees was Julie Schwartz Gottman of the Gottman Institute, who stated that couples haven’t had the chance to examine the inner landscape of their relationship and build or rebuild connection.
Some couples may just be realizing that they’ve shapeshifted a little bit, and wondering how do they get back? Or how do we make us both happy and fulfill both our needs? Off of Julie’s advice, Alix recommends making sure you and your partner are both on the same page, and are really contemplating what you learn about each other.
Alix and Julie also advise couples to check in weekly with each other – or even twice a week. Now this may feel a bit transactional, but Alix says “you’re not going to have a romantic moment every moment. I honestly think that some of the hard work is to sit down maybe every other week and say, let’s just check in with each other.”
(22:15) Marriage is really the management of differences: Dr. Anthony Chambers, another one of Alix’s interviewees, says that the central task of marriage is the management of differences. This doesn’t mean that you and your partner aren’t allowed to disagree, but just that you make the effort to hear and understand each other in a respectful manner.
Alix shares a tip she learned from actress Holly Robinson Peete, who said that if you’re in an intense fight or moment of extreme tension with your partner, try holding each other for 20 seconds. She says that there is something extremely centering about holding your partner, listening to each other breathe, and hearing your heartbeats.
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(25:34) Mother should know best, right?: Has your mom ever tried to set you up and it went horribly wrong? Well Alix knows that feeling all too well.
Her book Have I Got a Guy for You is a collection of essays from many others who have suffered this fate (but coincidentally, ended up with a reaaally good story). Alix’s main inspiration for her book was when her mother set her up with someone who was still MARRIED.
Alix recounts how this guy took her to a restaurant called “Good” (which she adds was not), and how he went on to say unflattering things about his current wife. To top it off, Alix says this guy had terrific road rage.
So per Alix’s experience, here are some takeaway tips for your blind dates:
You can read Alix’s NYT article here, and check out her website https://www.alixstrauss.com/.
DEAR DAMONA (34:07)
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BONUS: 8 Top Dating Mistakes & How to Fix Them
Today we’re going to do something a little different. I’m bringing back one of my favorite Dates & Mates masterclasses. Only the latest 100 episodes are available on our feed so I brought this out of the vault just for your listening pleasure. We’re going to talk about something that is really integral to my practice as a dating coach – how to develop better habits in dating, right in time for the new year.
BUT FIRST!
This episode is brought to you by my Dating Accelerator Program – the new and improved 10-week version of my most popular group coaching program is launching in January! If you’re ready to date differently in 2022, but you don’t know how to get started, then The Dating Accelerator could be your solution.
Early bird enrollment is open NOW through December 31st, and regular admission starts the first of the year. You can Find out more about The Dating Accelerator at damonahoffman.com/program
THE MASTERCLASS (1:20)
In this rapidly-evolving world of dating, I often see daters operating by old dating rules and not evolving with the dating climate. Many of my clients come to me feeling stuck in what I call a “samskara.” This is essentially a pattern or habit, something that becomes ingrained in you from doing it over and over again. There are both positive samskaras, such as consistently going to the gym, and negative samskaras – the difference is the negative ones hold you back, because these patterns keep attracting the things you don’t want. And as far as dating, the negative samskaras are more common than you think. I’m here to tell you the 8 most common bad dating habits that are preventing you from getting what you want.
I want to be clear. The purpose of this episode is not to shame you, because we all have patterns that need to be changed. But the first step in solving a problem is recognizing the problem, and the next step is putting a plan in action to change it. So I challenge you to change your negative samskaras. So if any of these bad dating habits sound like you, I’m here to tell you how you can fix them.
Speaking of a plan>>>>
This is a 10 week online program based upon the same system I’ve used successfully with hundreds of private clients distilled to easy to follow self-led materials that you can watch, listen, and read on your time, plus live group sessions with me.
Peak dating season begins the first Sunday of the year. January is the time when the biggest number of singles hop on the apps in hopes of finding their person. So we are kicking off this round of The Dating Accelerator in January so I can walk you step by step through my tried and true plan for dating.
It can feel really out of control to date without a plan, without a system. So that’s why I’ve done all the work for you. I’ve laid out all the steps to follow in a simple to follow program. In 30 minutes or less a week, you can shift how you feel about yourself, your outlook on dating and most importantly, your relationship status.
You are pre-qualified to register for this program because I know if you’re here you are ready for a big change in your life in 2022.
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If you are a single person of any gender or orientation who:
Then you are invited to accelerate your love life, improve your dating confidence, shortcut disappointment, and attract a deeper, more fulfilling relationship.
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Early birds get early access to our member Facebook community where you can start talking to each other and getting dating advice immediately.
This is the best deal on the Dating Accelerator that will be offered this year.
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Ohmygod Omicron & Style Your Profile
LOVERS, DO YOU NEED TO STYLE YOUR PROFILE?
Truth: You need to update your dating profile every 4-6 weeks in order to stay on top of the app’s algorithm.
So to help you keep your dating profile up to date, I have a sizzlin’ hot interview with Alyssa Dineen, the author of the new book The Art of Online Dating and founder of Style My Profile. We’re going to tell you what you should never ever put in your dating profile, and show you how to do a Closet Cleanse to get your dating capsule wardrobe on point.
But first, in light of the recent updates on the Omicron variant, I have a very special co-host with me to keep us in the know: Dr. James Simmons of Ask The NP! You may remember James, who joined me last year to talk about dating safety in the era of covid, and now he’s back to hit our headlines of the week and tackle your dating questions with me.
OMICRON VARIANT: IS IT TIME TO PANIC? (1:24)
Dr. James says absolutely NOT! I love getting my COVID news from Dr. James, because he is on the front lines and has the most up-to-date info.
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He reassures us to just stay on top of the data, learn a little bit every day, and then move on with your life. At the end of the day, this variant is here to stay, so we might as well learn how to live alongside it.
Now here’s the big question: is it still safe to be going on dates right now?
Dr. James believes it’s okay, especially if you’ve gotten your booster shot. He notes there’s a reason why the CDC, FDA, Pfizer, and everyone else have made the booster so accessible – it’s going to help you stay healthy, and help you continue to navigate the world with some normalcy and safety. But don’t get too cozy, because Dr. James still recommends meeting your dates outside if you can, or in a well ventilated place. “I’ll use my three V’s to stay safe: vaccination, ventilation, and very good masking.”
DATING DISH feat. Dr. James Simmons (4:54)
(4:54) Presents to get your new boo (hot tip – keep it personal)
Are you in a new relationship, and absolutely panicking about what to get your boo? Fear not! Your Tango came up with a list of 20 gifts you can give your partner if you’ve just started dating.
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Subscription Box? Yes. Both Damona and Dr. James like the idea of a date night subscription box, or any other type of subscription box, because there’s some longevity implied in the gift.
Experiences? Yes. Damona also suggests gifting experiences for a new relationship, like concert tickets to a band you both like – this is something you can both look forward to together, and signals that you are interested in getting closer with your boo.
Socks? Yes.. and No. YourTango also suggests some fun printed socks but D and Dr. James agree this can be a little lame. However, you can make socks a more romantic package by pairing them with some flirty matching undies. Damona notes that personalization is definitely the way to go – like getting a personalized portrait of your partner’s pet printed on said socks.
Bottom Line: Getting a personalized gift will always be more meaningful, and shows you put some thought into whatever gift you give your partner. Check out the full list for more ideas…
(8:47) Oof, breaking up during the holidays – is it possible?:
According to the Chicago Tribune, December 11 is statistically the most common day of the year to break off a relationship. This is probably due to the impending Holiday Trifecta (Christmas, New Year’s, and Valentine’s Day). With the stress of the holidays, people begin having thoughts like:
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So if your relationship must come to an end this holiday season, here’s some tips on how to break up with someone, keep your dignity, and still be a good person:
STYLE MY PROFILE (14:28)
Damona is joined by Alyssa Dineen, Founder of Style My Profile, for dating coaching and dating wardrobe/profile consultation. She’s the recent author of The Art of Online Dating: Style Your Most Authentic Self and Cultivate a Mindful Dating Life
(17:11) Creating your dating capsule wardrobe: In her book, Alyssa gives readers the 15 essential pieces you need for your dating capsule wardrobe. She notes that they’re all classic pieces that can be easily dressed up or down, for either an evening or day date. Some of these include:
Not only can you adjust these pieces depending on the date activity, but you can adapt these pieces to represent your specific style (i.e. more bohemian, or more rocker).
Of these 15 pieces, you probably already have some in your closet! So look for the tried and true staples in your wardrobe that are flattering, easy to adapt, and make you feel your best.
Bottom line – the less you have, the easier it is to get dressed. And the more pieces that you have that you know you love, the easier it’ll be to get dressed every time you go out.
BUT WAIT – what if you’ve got too much in your closet to handle? Alyssa likes to do a thorough Closet Cleanse with her clients. She describes doing the cleanse in stages, going through your clothes in the following order:
Pick up each item – “sort of in a Marie Kondo way” – and ask yourself, do I even like this? Do I ever wear it? Do I have anything to wear it with? By doing this, you help yourself start fresh, and are then able to figure out who you are now and how you want to show up in the world.
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(21:18) Dating more intentionally and putting in the work: Alyssa got into online dating in her 40’s, after divorcing her husband. Having been married through the whole dating-app renaissance, she was very new to all this dating technology.
After taking some time to adapt to the new dating landscape, she was amazed at how much opportunity was available to meet and date new people, versus the slow grind of having your friends set you up with someone.
Alyssa made dating her second job and eventually met her current partner. Many people tell Alyssa that “she just got lucky,” but she feels like she really put in the work to meet someone, “because as you know, 90% of dating is trying to not be bitter and guarded.”
Part of doing the work is being willing to get curious about some of these choices that you’re making with how you spend your time, and how you present yourself online. Try to look at each date as a learning opportunity, even if it doesn’t turn into something long-term.
(25:00) Writing a good bio: Alyssa sees a pattern – so many people were focusing all their attention on the curation of their pictures, that the bio went almost unacknowledged. With some apps, you can’t even begin to write a genuine bio because there’s so little typing space. So how do we make the best of the prime real estate we do have in our bio?
Alyssa’s thoughts, “My thing is, like, there’s so many overused descriptions, like loyal, kind, and funny… I have [my clients] write down at least 10 adjectives to describe themselves. I tell [them] you can’t say you’re loyal, kind and funny. And really try to think of other ways to describe yourself other than that.”
As common as those adjectives are, loyal and kind should be a given in ANY relationship, be it family or friends or romantic. It’s not making a huge statement, because it implies you’re just a decent person.
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Get a copy of Alyssa’s book, The Art of Online Dating, here. And if you want to work with Alyssa personally, go to https://stylemyprofilenyc.com/ to check out all her services.
DEAR DAMONA (+ Dr. James) (30:38)
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Dear Damona: Better Pictures & Booty Calls
Today’s episode is entirely dedicated to answering your most pressing dating dilemmas.
But FIRST – I have the latest and greatest breakdown on the dating scene today. Every year, Match releases their “Singles In America” study, examining the trends among the US single population (which they have done for the last 11 years). I’ll be looking at this study and analyzing these recent trends so you and I can come up with your dating plan together. Let’s get to it.
MATCH: SINGLES IN AMERICA (1:32)
This year’s study is a JUICY one. I was so eager to get my hands on this study, considering that we’ve all been going through a pandemic for the past year and a half. And IMO, this has been the biggest disruptor in dating culture since the invention of swipe technology. Here are the facts:
(2:52) Single adults account for more than 1/3 of the US adult population.
(3:58) The Covid Effect: intentional dating is on the rise.
(5:08) Desire for marriage is up, but preference for having children is down.
(5:08) Is this the death of the f*ckboy?
(9:53) An openness to interracial dating…
DEAR DAMONA (11:34)
Submit your questions on Instagram, Twitter, or Facebook and hear our answers live on the show! Here’s what our listeners asked about this week:
(12:00) IG Message from Felicia: Hi Damona, I just started listening to your podcast and trust me, I need all the help I can get! Here’s my situation: I met a really nice guy in September for a drink on a Sunday. The next day, we spent the whole day together, and then on Tuesday, I stopped hearing from him. He was moving at 150 mph and now he’s going to hit the brakes or ghost me. He’s a cop who works long shifts but it’s been a week since I’ve heard from him. I might have come off as crazy when I was venting about him to my friend and accidentally sent him the text! It was awkward and I’M SO EMBARRASSED! After that, he only texted me late on Saturday for what feels like a booty call. What should I do?? I think my friends have truly given up on me. I’ve been widowed for 8 years now and I think I’m going to be single for the remainder of my life at this point lol.
(20:06) Voice Message from Kay: Hey Damona! I just wanted to say thank you for your podcast – I’ve just loved it. I’m only 27 but I’d actually just swore off dating about a year ago. I know, why would I give up so early on in life? But listening to your podcast has really equipped me to start approaching dating again. I think I was always really scared of the apps in the past, because I didn’t wanna get a dick pic or match with guys who just wanted to hook up. And I think that’s kind of the stigma around apps in a lot of circles, especially my circles. But listening to your podcast really equipped me to write a good bio, and also how to search for others that had represented themselves well on apps, and to really look for people that shared my values. It’s crazy how you can actually kind of do that even in such a little picture of who that person is – their little bio and pictures, the questions they’ve answered. It’s so cool that you can actually use a bit of intuition to understand somebody based on how they’ve represented themselves. Anyways, I’ve gone on some very nice dates with some quality men. But my question is, if you have a couple of matches that you’ve connected and gone out with, that you really like, how long before I have to really pick someone and kind of exclude the others? I feel really conflicted about that, and I just want to know what you think.
(25:26) IG Message from M: I want to start online dating again. I was in a fantastic 2.5 year long term relationship with Joe that ended July 2020. We met on Match. I’m still heartbroken over our relationship ending, however I don’t want to wait to find someone wonderful again. I’m a bit hesitant to date again because I have Multiple Sclerosis and I’ve been experiencing balance issues, and at times I have to walk with a cane so I don’t fall. On my dating profile should I say that I have MS? I’m not interested in having children of my own but open to a man who has kids. I’m financially stable, I own my house. I’m looking for someone who is kind, loving, understanding, outgoing, funny, affectionate, and (in the words of Meghan Markle) a “nice guy.”
(30:40) Patreon Question from Dan: How does someone establish a connection with someone else with different interests (but with a shared relationship goal)? For example, my interests may be sports, history, science and current events while my dates interests may be along the lines of cooking, baking, etc? Asking for a friend.
(32:41) Patreon Question from J: Ugh. I’m disappointed. Went on a second date with a man last night and he blurted out that he “doesn’t believe in gay marriage.” I challenged him on this and he had no real explanation other than “it’s just wrong.” Needless to say, we are not a match. I can’t believe it took this long for this information to be revealed (3 weeks of texting, numerous phone calls, and two in person dates). I have my values clearly spelled out in my profile. So he knew where I stand on these issues. But it seems I need to improve my screening process even further. Any tips for getting these core-values cleared up very early on in the process?
(35:28) Patreon Question from M: When a man asks do you exercise, is he concerned whether I’m healthy or active or something else? I purposefully do not list how much I exercise as I have a bad knee, but I do some walking and dancing. This man also said he’s concerned about people who can’t walk well at work because they don’t take care of their health. I think it’s kind of rude to ask that in a first conversation, but it may be his priority. I’m feeling like I should just pass on this guy? What are your thoughts Damona? Thanks!!!
(37:22) Patreon Question from T: Is it rude to ask someone to share more photos? My profile has clear headshots and full body shots and I want to see that in a profile before I respond. Is there a cute way to ask? I once asked a guy if he had any close up shots since he only had a distant full body photo. I told him that I wanted to see his eyes and smile. He said he would send me some but I just wanted him to add them to his profile, not send them to my email. Am I being too dramatic? #frustratedwithshittyprofiles